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【BFV】北アフリカのマップ「Hamada」、まあまあ広い模様

156: 2018/09/18(火) 21:31:50.81 ID:ZhQdSIby0

浜田広いのな

 

159: 2018/09/18(火) 22:11:10.59 ID:xTm/92tc0
>>156
動画も見たけど、BF1のMONTE GRAPPAみたいな糞マップ感が漂ってるな……。

頼むからBF2みたいに縦横にこれの3~4倍くらい広くして欲しい。
狭いマップで正面衝突なら、それこそ他にいくらでも選択肢あるんだから。
メチャクチャ広いバトルフィールドで、縦横無尽に駆け巡ったり
マップ全体を使って戦略的に行動するのがBATTLE FIELDの魅力だろうに。

 

164: 2018/09/18(火) 23:06:51.63 ID:EZT65wca0
>>156
コンクエマップならまあまあ広いのかな浜田 ドラゴンバレーの中華側から
変電所みたいな拠点までが1㎞くらいだったような

 

167: 2018/09/19(水) 00:10:07.87 ID:+sSrXree0
>>156
64人でこの広さ要るか?
ロッテルダムでも俺的には他の兵隊どこおんねんってくらい寂しかったわ…。
小隊だけで回遊するだけの糞ゲーにならんか?

 

170: 2018/09/19(水) 00:20:46.59 ID:dtWTKxdZ0
>>167
バトルフィールド(戦場)を名乗るには、これでもまだ狭すぎるくらい。
本来、もっと大局観というか、戦略的に思考し行動するゲームだったから。
ロッテルダムなんて、ほんとCoDと変わらん。
BATTLE FIELDというゲームのよさを、PUBGもどきやCoDもどきの要素ハンパに入れて、グダグダになってる。

 

174: 2018/09/19(水) 00:34:26.49 ID:nWidalGS0
確かにロッテルダムは広さの割に静かだと思った 動いたらやられるので拠点を外側の
物陰や強ポジから見て取りに来る人を撃つゲームになってたかもしれない

 

188: 2018/09/19(水) 01:00:41.04 ID:vFgSuEtx0
>>174
まずガン待ちが強過ぎるからな
ヌーブは拠点から動かないくせ回遊魚に瞬殺されるし拠点間が開けすぎててベテランでも裏取りの裏取りしてかなきゃまともに進めないから前線が生まれにくい
結果撃ち合いも閑散としてて戦場感がない

 

192: 2018/09/19(水) 01:25:34.87 ID:nWidalGS0
>>188
ホントそんな感じだった 分隊員の辻斬りに付き合うのに飽きて気付いたら
回遊に混じってたわ他分隊からも蘇生が入るから突撃のし甲斐があった

 

172: 2018/09/19(水) 00:28:19.21 ID:zTCRpuyy0
>>170
大局観とか戦略的思考って具体的にどういう事を指しているわけ?
抽象的な言葉じゃなくてゲーム上でどういう行動をしたいわけ?

 

175: 2018/09/19(水) 00:36:48.24 ID:dtWTKxdZ0
>>172
うーむ、難しい。
システムも劣化し果てたし、かなり難しくなってるけど。

単純にいえば、攻撃と防衛ラインの概念かな。
最近は狭いだけの糞マップ、細長くて拠点が対称なだけの糞マップだらけで
分隊システムも劣化し過ぎたから難しいかも。

バトルフィールドはPCもCSも含め13年くらいしてきたけど、
最近のは「戦場に放り出された感」がかなり薄くなった。

 

177: 2018/09/19(水) 00:42:14.08 ID:zTCRpuyy0
>>175
攻撃と防衛のラインなら狭いマップでもできるし
細長いマップでも十分できると思うけど
メトロだって中央で戦線できたら裏取ってラインをずらすってのもできるしね
64人メトロは無理だけどドミネのメトロはそういう駆け引きができる

 

179: 2018/09/19(水) 00:43:49.25 ID:dtWTKxdZ0
>>177
メトロとかロッカーとか、あれこそBATTLE FIELDというゲームでやるもんじゃないと思う。
すぐ撃ち合えてるから人気あったみたいだけど。
あんなのなら、CoDでも他のFPSでも何でもいい。没個性。

 

181: 2018/09/19(水) 00:49:28.56 ID:zTCRpuyy0
>>179
現実的にメトロやロッカーは人気あるんだから
あれこそがむしろBFなんだが

 

157: 2018/09/18(火) 21:34:31.79 ID:JQbjxxdU0
ここまで広いのか…
拠点間移動が大変そうだ

 

160: 2018/09/18(火) 22:14:54.49 ID:pCtHOTmD0
マップ広くするならランダム拡散欲しいな
長距離でもSMG指切りでバスバス抜ける5は適正距離の概念がなくてつまらん

 

158: 2018/09/18(火) 21:41:24.54 ID:Sor2Rv5Fp
メチャクチャ空爆楽しそう

 

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